‘I’ve sat opposite people on trains while they’ve been looking at pictures of me in a magazine. They don’t recognise me; they never make the association between the pictures and a person who might sit opposite them on trains, or live next door to them.’

‘I’d never worked with Juergen before and was a little nervous about what he was going to do. But I realised that he sees poetry in so much of the world, whether that’s a pebble or a wound on a knee or a scratch on a belly. He was so much more subtle as a person than I thought he might be. It was rather touching.’